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Nathan:

Pretty convincing.

Yeah.

I think people who were on the fence, like Stef, should really see this one. It sums up my ideas as well. The complete lack of sequential mechanism for the 'collapses' (outside controlled demolitions). And unless you have one, then you have NO explanation for the events. The government story is not knowledge. It's religion.
 

What's the next step?

Greg Gauthier:

What's the next step?

In regards to the 9/11 'movement' you mean?

Maybe you can start with saying what you think of the vid.
 

I think it's very interesting.

What interests me more, though, than the particular physical causes of the tower collapse, is what we do with the answer to that question?  

This means that the buildings had to be rigged with explosives strategically placed on all floors below the impact floors. The explosives charges would have had to be sequenced to fire as each building was falling. This is indeed a monumental engineering feat. It doesn't seem to be the kind of quality that we've come to expect from government.

Maybe the buildings were built with the explosives already in place.

dominick
 

Dominick:

This is indeed a monumental engineering feat. It doesn't seem to be the kind of quality that we've come to expect from government.

The people DBA 'government,' with their vast resources, can achieve very impressive results...when they actually have an interest to do so.

Free Radical:

Dominick:

This is indeed a monumental engineering feat. It doesn't seem to be the kind of quality that we've come to expect from government.

The people DBA 'government,' with their vast resources, <i>can</i> achieve very impressive results...when they actually have an interest to do so.

What do you mean? 

Free Radical:

The people DBA 'government,' with their vast resources, <i>can</i> achieve very impressive results...when they actually have an interest to do so.

I don't mean to imply that it didn't happen that way, but if the government pulled it off, it would have taken a couple of decades to plan and, at least, another decade to execute.

We're talking about a small truckload of explosives for each floor in each tower. There's also the necessity of placing them without being detected or arousing suspicion. 

It does kind of make you wonder what other buildings may be similarly fitted for use in the next surprise. Could be all of them, huh?

dominick 

I can't claim to know how it happened, though I am, and have been, thoroughly convinced that the official explanation is not possible.

But I still don't know what the difference is.  Before 9/11, gov't = non-existent/immoral, people still loved it.  After 9/11, gov't shown yet again to be immoral (if not non-existent), people will just wipe it off as "wrong guys in charge".  I guess I'm with Greg -- what's next?  What does this knowledge do?  If tremendous effort is expended to get make this particular truth public knowledge, is the result an incremental step towards a stateless society?

Right now, my feeling is "unlikely at best".

 

Dominick:

This means that the buildings had to be rigged with explosives strategically placed on all floors below the impact floors. The explosives charges would have had to be sequenced to fire as each building was falling.

Correct. 

This is indeed a monumental engineering feat.

How so. This technology has been around for a long time. 

It doesn't seem to be the kind of quality that we've come to expect from government.

The govt doesn't care about providing good healthcare. The govt does care about transferring money from the taxpayer to itself and it's buddies. It also cares about having people believe in it's virtue. I think the govt is doing an absolutely amazing job at doing all those things. So if we look at education, the type of quality you're talking about is completely different from the type of quality they want it to be.

So the 'the govt is imcompetent' claim is a complete misrepresentation of the nature and goal of government.

Maybe the buildings were built with the explosives already in place.

Not necessarily.

There were unusual and long (and unprecedented) powerdowns with lots of engineers coming in and out in the buildings prior to 9/11. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed. And George Bush's brother and nephew were in charge of the company that was in control of security of the WTC complexes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1y33bCUJc
 

Darch:

my architectural technology professor disagrees with you niels

On incentives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4 

What are his and more specifically your ideas concerning the complete lack of sequential mechanisms.