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  • 08-01-2008 9:46 AM

    Perfect example of scientific skeptics dropping the ball.

     

    [You've received this e-mail from the Secular Coalition for America's tell-a-friend system. The Secular Coalition for America is the national lobby for atheists, humanists, freethinkers, and other nontheistic Americans. From our office in the nation's capital, our full-time lobbyists and support staff engage public policy makers and the media on issues ranging from religion's influence on education and medical research to the privileging of faith groups by government. We are the first and only cooperative venture of nine member organizations coming together to improve the political situation of a previously unrepresented constituency: the tens of millions of atheists and agnostics in the United States.

    I thought you might be interested in this action alert from the Secular Coalition for America:
    http://action.secular.org/t/5367/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=25245

    For the first time in the history of the Democratic Party, the Democratic National Convention will begin with an Interfaith Gathering. As a Democrat and a member of the Secular community, I am disappointed by the decision to unite Democrats around religious values when not everyone who identifies as a Democrat, or supports the Democratic Party, is a person of faith.

    To hold a unity event that is not totally inclusive of all the members of the Democratic Party is a mistake.

    TAKE ACTION NOW. http://action.secular.org/t/5367/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=25245 ]

     

     

     

    This is an e-mail that I just got from the founder of the skeptics group that I am a member of. The fact that most skeptics are democrats is bad enough but now apparently they are pooling thier political strength to try to change the system. Why don't these people get it? If they truly are devoted to employing skepticism in every facet of thier life, why is it then that they cannot connect the dots on the whole State = Evil thing. I mean athiesm? No problem. Quack health care scams? Piece of cake. But  when it comes to addressing the rediculous and hypocritical nature of the state it's just beyond them. I mean I would at least feel a tad bit better if they were minarchists but no, these people think that passing another law is the solution for everything. I feel like we would have such a strong ally on our side if we could just open these people's eyes.

     

     

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  • 08-01-2008 10:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Perfect example of scientific skeptics dropping the ball.

    They would be attacked for it in a way that they don't think that they could endure.

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  • 08-01-2008 2:02 PM In reply to

    • Joey
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    Re: Perfect example of scientific skeptics dropping the ball.

    Not only dropping the ball, but they're playing a game that nobody will ever win, and trying to get more freethinkers into it.

    What is the difference between fate and destiny? Imagine yourself on a supremely windy day. If you just sit there, and let the wind take you where it will, that's fate. But if you are the deciding factor of where you will go--even against the wind--that is destiny.

  • 08-04-2008 7:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Perfect example of scientific skeptics dropping the ball.

    Sounds like a case of, "Safe Bravery". Tilting at windmills instead of dragons just because you KNOW you can beat the windmill...

    Plus, their subconscious realizes that if they see the corruption of the state then the "final veil" towards seeing their family in all it's viscious "glory" will be thinner than a sheer bedsheet. Thus far I've found very few that are willing to scrutinize their parents and siblings actions objectively...

    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." - Commisioner Pravin Lal
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