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Stefan Molyneux
  - Joined on 02-17-2006
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FDR1099 - Optimism and History - the Chat Transcript...
Chat Log
7/3/2008 10:37:10 PM
 bockman: |
whatsa mattah, Spratza
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| Guest_d9b5: |
wildin' out lol
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| matt_J: |
yo
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| bockman: |
Hello again, everyone.
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 duckyfeets: |
hi stef!
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 Stefan Molyneux: |
howwwdy!
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 Greg Minton: |
hey stef!
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 ashe: |
hi stef
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| Stefan Molyneux whisper ashe: |
hey, u had a question?
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
i did thanks for mentioning it
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| Greg Minton: |
how's your evening going?
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
i have a question about managing anxiety alone
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
The evening, she is good
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and you?
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| Greg Minton: |
pretty good as well, thanks! productive, for sure.
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| Greg Minton: |
hey guest!
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
i want to learn ways to manage alone but i have a habit of relying on people too much
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 matt_J: |
hey people
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
is there a technique i can try
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| duckyfeets: |
hey there matt!
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| Stefan Molyneux whisper ashe: |
yes, there is an anxiety management workbook
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Nathan joined the room.
| duckyfeets: |
and nate
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 Nathan: |
whoa
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| Nathan: |
that's some old history
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| matt_J: |
its a nate
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| Stefan Molyneux whisper ashe: |
full of exercises that you can put yourself through to better manage your own anxiety
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| Nathan: |
whattup
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| matt_J: |
nada
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
and the name?
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| Stefan Molyneux whisper ashe: |
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| duckyfeets: |
seems like quite a few chatty kathy's in here tonight
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
it's very interesting -- there are almost no responses to the podcasts for the last few weeks or so
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| Greg Minton: |
Hm...do you think it has something to do with the tumbleweeds regarding P.A.?
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| matt_J: |
really, i wonder why
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| ashe whisper Stefan Molyneux: |
thank you so much
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Jason McLaughlin joined the room.
| Stefan Molyneux: |
I am getting a lot of new listener e-mails
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
so things are chugging along well in that regard
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| duckyfeets: |
maybe people are trying to catch up?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
it could well be
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I think that there have been some very good podcasts lately
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 Jason McLaughlin: |
Hello folks  |
| matt_J: |
Greg g was talking about a drop in the number of board vies recently. maybe its related.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
yes, I've noticed that as well
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| matt_J: |
views*
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
there is usually a drop-off in summer
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
particularly after the kids get out of school
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| Greg Minton: |
i thought the Objectivism and UPB podcasts specifically were fantastic...but i'm not sure why I didn't comment on it
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
no offense to any kids
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
yes, it's interesting - I really liked the objectivism ones as well
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| matt_J: |
could just be because of the 4th
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| Greg Minton: |
i thought those were some of your best in a while
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| duckyfeets: |
im not even close to being caught up
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| Nathan: |
yeah I'm still not caught up on the two latest
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| Greg Minton: |
it really gets down the idea of moral responsibility + UPB
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| Nathan: |
still chugging through PA
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| Nathan: |
good stuff
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| Nathan: |
if I can keep focused and my mind doesn't wander to the job situation
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| Nathan: |
I'll probably finish it tomorrow
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| Nathan: |
since there's nothing I can do about the job right now
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| Greg Minton: |
do you have any ideas about this general silence in the community, stef?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
nothing in particular
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
though I do think that as we get closer to making a completely solid case
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
peoples anxieties are likely to rise
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| matt_J: |
i thought the call with charlote was interesting
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and some people are less likely to stay
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| Nathan: |
yeah me too matt
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| Nathan: |
that one in particular got me thinking about a lot of things
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| duckyfeets: |
could it be something as simple as the fact that its summer?
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| Greg Minton: |
yeah, stef, i agree. that's been the case with me.
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| Nathan: |
not just career but how I've dealt with the family and the fear I have of asking questions has more to do with the world I create in how I try to help others
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| Nathan: |
err
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| Nathan: |
*now that I have dealt with the family part
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| Nathan: |
it can only be things in the present I think
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| Nathan: |
like, I expect people to come down hard on me unjustifiably because I both come down hard on myself (mostly) and others (sometimes)
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| matt_J: |
it got me thinking about somthing recently that iv become very interested in and how it might be used to help the world.
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| matt_J: |
something*
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| Stefan Molyneux to duckyfeets: |
It certainly could be
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| Nathan: |
what's that Matt?
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| duckyfeets: |
especially with your younger crowd.... most people tend to leave the computer come summer because much more exciting things are happening for them than, well, changing the world
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| Nathan: |
yes much more exciting things  |
| Nathan: |
heh
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| duckyfeets: |
lol, yeah. Like, beer, and scantily clad women and whatnot
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| Nathan: |
yes see for people in houston it's the opposite, summer comes around and everyone goes inside
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| matt_J: |
im getting realy interested in learning foreign languages. Japanese is what im curently fixated on but i want to study others.
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| Nathan: |
how will that help the world?
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| matt_J: |
its a fairly recent development but iv spent the last week looking up stuff on the net.
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| matt_J: |
hmm thats what i would like to know.
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| Nathan: |
heh
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| Nathan: |
well
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| Nathan: |
you could talk about these ideas with people who don't speak english
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| Greg Minton: |
translating the books to japanese? |
| Jason McLaughlin: |
Yeah, I thought you were going to say translation, Matt.
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| Nathan: |
yeah, I know someone who will be translating RTR to German
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| matt_J: |
well i dont know if thats the best i could do with it but if i became fluent id certainly offer.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
Yes there is a fellow who is struggling to translate everyday anarchy into Spanish
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
I'll volunteer to translate RTR into po-mo  |
| duckyfeets: |
hiya charlotte
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| Greg Minton: |
the proud atheist?
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 Charlotte: |
hey
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| duckyfeets: |
ill translate it into pig latin, tho i doubt it'd do much help
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| Charlotte: |
pig latin?
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| Nathan: |
LOL Jason
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| duckyfeets: |
otna luentfa nia igpa atinla?
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
I guess not.
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| Charlotte: |
I prefer classical latin |
| Charlotte: |
though I thought the suffix was "-ay" in pig latin? |
| Stefan Molyneux: |
you know...
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| Charlotte: |
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeez?
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| duckyfeets: |
woops... my bad. Been a few years |
| Stefan Molyneux: |
I'm not sure if it's something to do with me at the moment
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| Charlotte: |
lol
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
but I can't really remember the last time that I saw a very serious chat in this chat room
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I'm just trying to think back...
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
is it just me?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I don't mean anything emotional or heavy
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
necessarily
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
but even a philosophical question...
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| Charlotte: |
hm. there have been a few on the talk chat thing
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I can't recall the last time I saw one
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| Charlotte: |
but... text? not in a while, for sure.
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| duckyfeets: |
there was one the day we got the voice chat about mental desease
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| Greg Minton: |
right, not in text
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
I've participated in a few over the past week.
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| Greg Minton: |
i agree
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| Nathan: |
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| Nathan: |
but you're right, it isn't as common
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| Charlotte: |
that was a good one, Nate
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| Nathan: |
yeah I thought so too
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| Nathan: |
it really helped a lot
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| Charlotte: |
GG and I had one earlier - you were there, GM - which prompted a voice post on my blog about careers
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| Charlotte: |
seems to be more common in the voice chat thing.
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| Greg Minton: |
but yeah, i am feeling pretty anxious about that, stef, now that you mention it.
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| Greg Minton: |
coupled with the silence in the community
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| Charlotte: |
hm... you have a point, Greg
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| Nathan: |
I'm not sure what serious topics I could bring up at the moment, I've got a single focused mind the past couple of weeks or so
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| Charlotte: |
well... it's not just right now, right?
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| Charlotte: |
I mean... there is a reason why they've kind of tapered off, methinks.
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| Charlotte: |
just generally.
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| Nathan: |
well
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| Charlotte: |
how long has this been going on for do you think, Stef?
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| Nathan: |
for me, I've been trying to stop myself from seeking external validation lately so I consider that a lot before bringing up something that's going on for me
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I would say that it started around the time that EA came out
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
so a little over two months I think
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| Nathan: |
hmm
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| Nathan: |
and
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| Charlotte: |
I was in a weird place for the first month of that, so can't speak there, but...
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| Charlotte: |
it's interesting that you mention that
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| Nathan: |
I haven't been catching too many opportunities to help others in the chat either.
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| Charlotte: |
yeah, I can't remember the last time I had a great chat with a guest.
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| Charlotte: |
maybe a coupla weeks ago? Dave and I were helping a woman...
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| Nathan: |
yeah the last chat with a guest I had was annoying, was that guy who kept using 60 dollar words and wasn't going anywhere
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| Charlotte: |
well... I mean, I haven't really been making a good effort to engage anyone.
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| Nathan: |
yeah
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| duckyfeets: |
ive been noticing that the guests are becoming alot more vocal
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| Charlotte: |
maybe that's just me?
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| duckyfeets: |
especially the ones that come in at night
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| Nathan: |
but before it didn't take that much of an effort no?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
the chats here just seem a little -- desultry, if that makes any sense
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
desultory
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| Nathan: |
desultory, hmm sec looking it up
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| Charlotte: |
before it was like... 65 guests coming up and asking for me personally. which sort of... that was odd.
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| matt_J: |
me to
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| Nathan: |
inconsistent, erratic
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| Charlotte: |
but now... it's different.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
habitual, uninspired
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| Nathan: |
oh
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 Guest_37df: |
as a guest, I really appreciated the help people here offered me in my current situation
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
FDR as a whole is going very well
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
I was gone from the boards for a while, but since I picked back up daily participation (3 or so weeks ago), I've had a few good conversations a week in chat.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
so it's nothing like that
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| Charlotte: |
a speaking guest! hello |
| Stefan Molyneux to Guest_37df: |
I'm very glad to hear that!
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| Guest_37df: |
Greg G really drew a lot out of me that I hadn't discussed for a long time with anyone
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| Guest_37df: |
Stefan, you've helped me as well
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| Nathan: |
yeah I've noticed GG has managed to help a lot of people lately
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I'm glad to hear that too
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| Charlotte: |
GG has indeed. helping himself, though...
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
but I drop in here while I am brushing my teeth
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and it's been a while since I have seen some real momentum in any conversation
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| Guest_37df: |
Yeah, I actually came back the next night looking for him, had such a good convo
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
it's not a criticism, just an observation of course |
| Nathan: |
right
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| Charlotte: |
hm. I wonder why that is.
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| Nathan: |
I don't know if it's something that can be forced or whether if it's something that must be uncovered or what
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| Charlotte: |
I guess I didn't notice it too much just after EA... but I started really noticing it when I started... well, noticing anything around me, frankly.
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| Guest_37df: |
what is EA?
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| Charlotte: |
Everyday Anarchy
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| Nathan: |
Everyday Anarchy
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| Charlotte: |
jinx. coke please.
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| Guest_37df: |
oh...thank you
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| duckyfeets: |
one of Stef's recent books
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| Nathan: |
ah subtract it from the cokes you owe me |
| Charlotte: |
3 as I recall.
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| Nathan: |
I let you have that one heh
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| Charlotte: |
anyway. back on topic.
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| Nathan: |
3
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| Nathan: |
thousand
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
see, this is exactly what I mean
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
we get kind of all...
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
distracted
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
like the 'coke' tyjhoimnthink
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
thing
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| Charlotte: |
yeah.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
we're like helium balloons or something
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| Charlotte: |
you know, I was thinking that as I typed the bloody thing
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| Charlotte: |
but I said it anyway.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
yeah
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I do see that quite a little bit
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
where a serious topic comes up, but people cannot resist making jokes
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| Nathan: |
helium balloons?
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| duckyfeets: |
why dyu think?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and it kind of... makes it hard to continue
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| Nathan: |
oh right
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I do know if anyone else has seen that
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| Nathan: |
earlier today I did that
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
I guess I just miss some of our more relaxed and intimate conversations
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| Nathan: |
yeah
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
where this jumpy kind of showiness wasn't always ready to erupt
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
One fear I have is that I'll get drained on serious topics, like a serious topic overload. I don't feel like it's happened to me at all, but is that possibly something that's happened for some of the FDR "veterans"
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
?
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| Charlotte: |
I can think of a few.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and distract everyone
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| Charlotte: |
but... not many
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
well but serious topics shouldn't really be draining
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| Charlotte: |
serious topic conversations usually leave me happier afterwards. and wanting more.
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| Charlotte: |
not the opposite.
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| Charlotte: |
why not make that happen, then? tis odd.
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| duckyfeets: |
i sometimes feel overloaded with the serious topics
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| Nathan: |
well, if we don't figure this out I'll at least be sure to be more aware when a serious topic does come up
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| matt_J: |
you know thats interesting, i noticed that i have a tendancy to come here and just make jokes but i dont really bring a whole lot of serious topics in. thats actualy why i have been spending less time in the chat room more recently.
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| Charlotte: |
well... I mean it's not either 100% serious all the time or 100% light all the time, right?
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| Charlotte: |
there can be room for a sense of humor even with serious stuff
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| Charlotte: |
the operative thing, I think is the distraction
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| Charlotte: |
not the presence of humor itself
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| Stefan Molyneux to Charlotte: |
yes, you are saying what Nate was saying above
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| Stefan Molyneux to Charlotte: |
it seems like a false dichotomy to me
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| Charlotte: |
I didn't even notice Nate saying it.  |
| Stefan Molyneux: |
no problem
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| matt_J: |
i dont know if its related but its what poped into my head.
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| Charlotte: |
hm. that flexibility though... has eluded me.
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| Nathan: |
I was saying it's either one or the other?
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| Charlotte: |
that ability to be non-distractingly humorous.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
it just has started to strike me like an awkward family dinner table
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
Then is it more of a distractability issue? We don't come back to topic when a shiny distraction comes along?
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
if you know what I mean
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| Charlotte: |
not entirely I think, Jason
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ashe was removed from the channel due to inactivity.
| Charlotte: |
the issue is it seems why the distractions come along
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
That's been the case with every serious conversation I've been in lately, except for one.
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| Charlotte: |
I may be totally not following though
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
well I think people feel that to be interesting requires
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
"me plus jokes"
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| Charlotte: |
I agree with you, though - every convo I've seen recently has been... derailed.
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| Jason McLaughlin: |
Ah. Why the need to distract even comes up.
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and that can get to be sort of habit-forming
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| Nathan: |
right
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and a little alienating I think
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| Charlotte: |
yeah...  |
| Guest_37df: |
it feels like an inside joke situation
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
and it raises the energy level of the conversation to the point where everyone starts kind of waving their hands in the air
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| Guest_37df: |
to an outsider, that is
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| Stefan Molyneux: |
"me me me!"
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