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  • 06-27-2007 9:00 PM

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    is defooing always desirable?

    i,
    as a social 17 year old,
    will probably have a harder time,
    practically and emotionally,
    with defooing than any adult.
    i suppose being an adult comes with a sense of aloofness,
    and i don't have that yet.

    i don't and can't get away from my dad.
    he's an atheist,
    so that's not the problem.
    what is the problem is his treatment of me.
    he used to look at me as property.
    that's how he justified beating me.
    he stopped that long ago,
    but he's still a ***.

    but getting rid of him is pretty much out of the question anyways.

    the real reason i'm posting this is:

    i have friends with whom politics is not a concern.
    religion is not a concern.
    we don't talk about those things,
    not because we avoid it,
    but because there's other things.
    i know though,
    for a fact,
    that they are diametrically opposed to my political and religious views.
    if i ever brought them up for discussion,
    i would annoy them,
    but certainly not get anything through.

    i don't really care, though.
    i know that's the case,
    but my friendships really don't involve these things.

    should i care?
    should i defoo?

    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

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  • 06-27-2007 9:04 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Please use some punctuation dude. I can't read that.
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  • 06-27-2007 9:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Graeme (UKD):
    Please use some punctuation dude. I can't read that.

    do you mean capitalization?
    i punctuated well.

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  • 06-27-2007 9:38 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Why can't you ditch your dad?


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  • 06-27-2007 9:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Stefan Molyneux:
    Why can't you ditch your dad?

     i'm 17, and depend on him financially.

    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

  • 06-27-2007 9:48 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    AESTHETE:

    Graeme (UKD):
    Please use some punctuation dude. I can't read that.

    do you mean capitalization?
    i punctuated well.

    It kind of looks like song lyrics. I do want to read it, just not in that format. Beer

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  • 06-27-2007 9:51 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Who are you ? His Dad ? (heehee) I read it fine & I'm a stickler for grammar.
  • 06-27-2007 9:56 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Gerry:
    Who are you ? His Dad ? (heehee) I read it fine & I'm a stickler for grammar.

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  • 06-27-2007 9:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    AESTHETE:

    i, as a social 17 year old, will probably have a harder time, practically and emotionally, with defooing than any adult. i suppose being an adult comes with a sense of aloofness, and i don't have that yet.

    i don't and can't get away from my dad. he's an atheist, so that's not the problem. what is the problem is his treatment of me. he used to look at me as property. that's how he justified beating me. he stopped that long ago, but he's still a ***.

    but getting rid of him is pretty much out of the question anyways.

    the real reason i'm posting this is:

    i have friends with whom politics is not a concern. religion is not a concern. we don't talk about those things, not because we avoid it, but because there's other things. i know though, for a fact, that they are diametrically opposed to my political and religious views. if i ever brought them up for discussion, i would annoy them, but certainly not get anything through.

    i don't really care, though. i know that's the case, but my friendships really don't involve these things.

    should i care?
    should i defoo?

    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

  • 06-27-2007 10:16 PM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    It still could use capitalization, but since the subject matter is so serious, I would have to be pretty pedantic to chastise you any further.

    It sounds like you're in a rough situation. IMO, your relationship with your dad should be your primary concern. Everything I know about psychology (which isn't that much) says that your relationship to your foo determines how you will relate to other people. Change the direction of your ship by turning the wheel, not by adjusting napkins in the captain's quarters. Change the direction of your relationships by focusing on your foo, not by adjusting your relationships with your friends (yet).

    I think you know what the general consensus of the FDR board will be when you say that your dad is a **** who beat you. I think you posted this because you know what's in your best interest.  

    Defoo!

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  • 06-27-2007 10:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    AESTHETE: I am in a similar predicament since I am also 17 years and still dependent on my parents. My best advice is work on your relationship with your Dad if possible. However, this seems highly unlikely. What you can do is think about your relationship so that you won't make any similar mistakes. Once you are finacially independent, if you were not successful in improving your relationship with your dad, get the **** away from him!


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  • 06-28-2007 5:59 AM In reply to

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    AESTHETE:

    Stefan Molyneux:
    Why can't you ditch your dad?

     i'm 17, and depend on him financially.

    How so? My brother and I made my mother move out when I was 15, you'd be amazed what is possible!


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  • 06-28-2007 6:20 AM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    I don't know how it is in the US, but in the UK some teens do move out at 17.

    As Stef said, age is no barrier!
     

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  • 06-28-2007 7:29 AM In reply to

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    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Stefan Molyneux:
    AESTHETE:

    Stefan Molyneux:
    Why can't you ditch your dad?

     i'm 17, and depend on him financially.

    How so? My brother and I made my mother move out when I was 15, you'd be amazed what is possible!

    i'd benefit more from just enduring.
    it's not that bad.
    he's just a little tyranical at times.

    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

  • 06-28-2007 8:55 AM In reply to

    Re: is defooing always desirable?

    Have you tried opening your heart to him, telling him how you feel?


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