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Rod, there is one theory that argues they were not planes at all, but military drones made up to look like planes, just to mask the demolition.

And Building 7 either fell in sympathy and anguish, or it was demolished.

It was, actually, pretty sad.

Rod, there is one theory that argues they were not planes at all, but military drones made up to look like planes, just to mask the demolition.

And, besides this theory, do the theories deny that the planes were hijacked by muslims?

If it was a conspiracy, then the public sector employee  who planned it must have taken the afternoon off when he came to building 7

"What were we going to do with that one again? We can't have ANOTHER plane.  Aw heck I dunno but I want lunch, lets just blow it up too or something"

  Thank you, Tuttle.

There is one essential point that all of us here understand but may be forgetting: a society ignorant of the fact that violence is only capable of generating evil will accept the expansion of violence as the "logical" remedy for the failure of violence.

Do not for one second believe that exposing the crime of 9/11 to a population that does not yet accept the basic tenets of universal morality will result in anything other than a ripe opportunity for further brutal State opportunism. (the establishment of World Government, championed by academics on the forefront of political "thought" like Sam Harris, perhaps?)

By all means, discuss "conspiracy" theories in this forum amongst those who reach the correct conclusion from their examples. (9/11 is just the tip of an iceburg so unimaginably evil it would make Saw Trilogy aficionados sick to their stomach) Discussing them with people you know do not yet grasp universal morality, and so are only capable of drawing the wrong conclusions, can only serve the interests of the State.

Recognizing the evil "government" is capable of != recognizing that "government" is evil.  The "conspiracy" theorist who has earned the most respect from me happens to be a democratic socialist who specifically argues against anarchist thought in the concluding chapter of one of his books!

John:

There is one essential point that all of us here understand but may be forgetting: a society ignorant of the fact that violence is only capable of generating evil will accept the expansion of violence as the "logical" remedy for the failure of violence.

Do not for one second believe that exposing the crime of 9/11 to a population that does not yet accept the basic tenets of universal morality will result in anything other than a ripe opportunity for further brutal State opportunism. (the establishment of World Government, championed by academics on the forefront of political "thought" like Sam Harris, perhaps?)

By all means, discuss "conspiracy" theories in this forum amongst those who reach the correct conclusion from their examples. (9/11 is just the tip of an iceburg so unimaginably evil it would make Saw Trilogy aficionados sick to their stomach) Discussing them with people you know do not yet grasp universal morality, and so are only capable of drawing the wrong conclusions, can only serve the interests of the State.

Recognizing the evil "government" is capable of != recognizing that "government" is evil.  The "conspiracy" theorist who has earned the most respect from me happens to be a democratic socialist who specifically argues against anarchist thought in the concluding chapter of one of his books!

Interesting point. 

John:

There is one essential point that all of us here understand but may be forgetting: a society ignorant of the fact that violence is only capable of generating evil will accept the expansion of violence as the "logical" remedy for the failure of violence.

Wow.  Let the record reflect that I will be quoting the bolded phrase in an upcoming essay, or in my sig line, or just in conversation as soon as humanly possible.  That is exquisitely expressed John.  (The whole post was great, but that line was exceptional.)

...as a fellow resident of upstate New York, I salute you. 

John:

Do not for one second believe that exposing the crime of 9/11 to a population that does not yet accept the basic tenets of universal morality will result in anything other than a ripe opportunity for further brutal State opportunism. (the establishment of World Government, championed by academics on the forefront of political "thought" like Sam Harris, perhaps?)

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Recognizing the evil "government" is capable of != recognizing that "government" is evil.

You are right about 9/11 being used as a backdoor to open world governance.  The US will be portrayed as a "rogue state" which needs to be reigned in by world govt.  All the while, the people engineering the US to be a rogue state will be the ones coming in as the saviors in the end.  They're a crafty bunch--don't underestimate their understanding of the situation.

I also agree with you on your second point I pasted above.  However, I have had some success in discussing MA with 9/11 truthers.  They already see the current regieme as currupt.  All you have to do is expand from there by explaining the role of mythology in our lives, and how the moral nature of our actions is, over time, made explicit through ritualization.  If someone can understand this point, and undertand that the current government is evil, they will soon see that all government is of the same nature.