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  • 07-27-2008 10:18 AM

    Hello!

    Hi, my name's Daniel. I have been listening for FDR for a while now after reading some of Stef's articles on LewRockwell.com, at least at first linked through Strike-The-Root.com, and wanted to get involved with the discussion. I figured this was a good place to start, it being the introduction section and all.

    I'd also like to say that FDR has been a great help to me as I was previously struggling with the issue of government, wavering essentially from day to day between minarchism and anarchism, and the argument from morality really sealed the deal for me toward the latter.

    Always remember to keep TEDE ALARA and DYODD.

  • 07-27-2008 12:35 PM In reply to

    • yurface
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    Re: Hello!

     yo.  Did you come in by ron paul by any chance? 

     

  • 07-27-2008 6:14 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    I guess you might be able to say that I did. I was certainly a fan of his compared to everyone else, but I was never a fervent supporter. However, if you meant instead if it was Ron Paul that got me interested in libertarian ideas in the first place, I'd have to say no.

     

    Always remember to keep TEDE ALARA and DYODD.

  • 07-27-2008 6:22 PM In reply to

    • yurface
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    Re: Hello!

     oh ok.  I kind of came in through reading a john stossel book i saw at a costco.  Then i subscribed to reason magazine and somehow ended up here.  Mainly though my parents wrer complete econmic libertarians so thats what started me off.

    I just think its interesting hearing people stories.  C u round

     

  • 07-27-2008 7:34 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    Ok, I see what you were getting at now. My long, winding path really started the summer before my first year of college, where I watched a reefer madness dvd with my dad and his wife, after which we talked about how they did it in school and essentially how its not really a bad thing. I spent probably my first two years in school sliding from democrat to libertarian, culminating in watching Michael Badnarik's constitution class(and seeing a fair amount of Stossel along the way). From then on I think I stopped asking 'what does the government do wrong?' and started asking 'what does the government do right?' With that question I went from libertarian to my aforementioned fencesitter status. Something I think that also helped me a bit along the way was reading Harris, Dawkins, and Hitchens wherein I realized, at least in one sense, that it was OK to break from my parent's beliefs. (that is, from mennonite to atheism) I do wonder sometimes how much of the stuff regarding religion my parents told me I actually believed, because I don't remember ever actually 'feeling' anything other than the expectations of the people around me, even though I went and did the whole go-to-a-poor-town-and-build-a-porch-for-someone thing.

    Always remember to keep TEDE ALARA and DYODD.

  • 07-27-2008 9:55 PM In reply to

    • yurface
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    Re: Hello!

     even though I went and did the whole go-to-a-poor-town-and-build-a-porch-for-someone thing.

    lol, Story of my life right there.  Thts pretty interesting to me, it kinda conforms to my belif that once you get into reason its a benifical kind of slippery slope.

     

  • 07-28-2008 4:39 AM In reply to

    • Tom
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    Re: Hello!

     Glad to welcome you to the forums Daniel!

    So you say it was the argument from morality which really swung you over this side of the fence, have you read some of the arguments of universally preferrable behavior (UPB) by any chance? or was it the whole, 'do you honestly condone the use of force against me' question?

    'Philosophy is the most extreme sport known to mankind.' - Molyneux

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  • 07-28-2008 7:30 AM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    Hello Daniel, great to have you with us, I look forward to your contributions! And thank you so much for your very kind donation, I really do appreciate your support...Big Smile


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  • 07-28-2008 8:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    Welcome, Daniel! I'm glad to hear that FDR has been so helpful to you. Smile

    We have reached the open sea, with some charts, and the firmament.

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  • 07-28-2008 12:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    I am so glad that you are with us! Welcome on boardBig Smile

     

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  • 07-28-2008 2:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello!

    Tom: I feel I was mostly affected by the "approve of violence against me" line, along with the thought that all actions of the government are centered around that violence, not just the ones that are obviously so, such as the war on drugs or wars in general.

    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!Big Smile

    Always remember to keep TEDE ALARA and DYODD.

  • 07-29-2008 7:55 AM In reply to

    • Tom
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    Re: Hello!

     Ahh i see thankyou. It's amazing how turbulent the waters become once others begin to see the outward ripples of violence which are created as a consequence of such centralised coersion.

    Great to see another brilliant mind hacking away at these ideas!

    'Philosophy is the most extreme sport known to mankind.' - Molyneux

    'Don't give up your education, your hopes and ambitions to follow a rainbow.' - Jeannie Mills

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