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  • 04-28-2008 5:52 PM

    Hello All...

    Hello all, my name is Scott and this is my intro.  I am a Strong Atheist and a Market Anarchist.  I am greatly disturbed by "libertarian" fascism which is on the rise.  "Libertarian" Fascism is basically a Fascist Movement that uses Libertarian talking points to advance their cause.  The vulgar libertarians, Ron Paul Supporters, and mainstream modern day Objectivism.  For the longest time I agreed with the statement that the state is violence but never connected that important statement to reality.  The violence of the state is real and a lot of so called "libertarians" don't get that.  Minarchism is radically different than Anarchism.  I actually see Minarchism as no different than other forms of Statism.  Thank You for your time.  I am rarely on this pc so I won't be posting much.  I could sign in on this pc but not on my laptop.  This is entirely my fault because 6 months ago I was a totally different person and my false self dominated my true self.  Also, I am "TheAmericanAnarchist" on youtube.  Peace out people.  Also, I would like to thank Stefan for turning me on to Natacha Atlas and her Moroccan singing...I love this forum and I look forward to this conversation.
  • 04-28-2008 6:04 PM In reply to

    • Charlotte
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    Re: Hello All...

    Nice to have you here, my friend. Welcome!

    How did you find FDR?

    We have reached the open sea, with some charts, and the firmament.

    http://montaignesheiress.wordpress.com/

    Voevoda Bolshoia - my travels in Russia.

    http://www.voevodabolshoia.com/

  • 04-28-2008 6:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    Well I ran into Stefan on youtube and everything he was saying made perfect sense.  Stefan doesn't teach us but simply shows us the way out.  Stefan did not invent reality and morality he just came to it after decades of brainwashing.  Philosophy is about healing people and I love Stefan's work because it is relates to reality 100%.  Thanks for the welcome Charlotte and you have a beautiful name and I am sure you have a beautiful soul. 
  • 04-28-2008 7:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    How did you find FDR Charlotte?
  • 04-28-2008 7:50 PM In reply to

    • Charlotte
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    Re: Hello All...

    NYCAnarchist:
    How did you find FDR Charlotte?

    Oh dear me. Um... I stumbled across Stef on Strike the Root when he first hung up his proverbial shingle over there (I used to write for StR). But that was at a time in my life where my soul was not perhaps so beautiful. So I kept running into Stef on sites that I read, and then... oh, round about last year at this time I started listening to the podcasts. Then after a lot of procrastination I joined the boards. The rest has been... pretty much history!

    So, have you been listening to the podcasts? In order? Or just watching the vids? Smile

    Feel free to look some of us in the chat room sometime!

    We have reached the open sea, with some charts, and the firmament.

    http://montaignesheiress.wordpress.com/

    Voevoda Bolshoia - my travels in Russia.

    http://www.voevodabolshoia.com/

  • 04-28-2008 8:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    I listened to a lot of Stefan's podcasts and watched a lot of his video's.  I have some holes to fill which I am doing.  Becoming rational and waking up to the world was painful bu extremely liberating.  I had this self-proclaimed "anarchist" totally sell out to hardcore fascism and was willing to have me shot by the state.  Luckily that did not happen.  I was living in a clouded world with phony people around me.  What makes it worst is that this hardcore fascist stills identifies with libertarianism as well as anarchism which is very deceptive.  I was so close to getting thrown into the institutional rape rooms we call prison or be shot if I resisted.  At the time, she still had limited but waning support within the libertarian community, but now every single rational libertarian rejects this person.  She is now involved with this Soldier who is going to re-enlist.  This is what happens when libertarians don't live their values.  I have way more in common with the voluntary socialists than any minarchist.  Violence breeds Violence.  I now live a lonely existence but life is radically different.  Life is way more clear and I see the truth so much more.  I still socialize and I still have contact with a collection of select women that are worth talking too but life is different.  The other day, I got an irrational but common response from a muslim.  I then went on to make the statement that if people are going to be irrational, they should have been aborted.  Right away, people started calling me a racist because I denounced the irrationality of Islam.  I challenged an illusion and literally a lot of people came out of the wood works to attack me.  I guess I can't denounce the irrationality of nazism, because that would be "racism" against whites even if I am white.  Some people should know better but they don't.  The people who understand everything I am saying but still reject philosophy because they are violent elitist maniacs...those are the people that enrage me the most.  Irrationality breeds Irrationality.  Statism is not separate from Mysticism.  Sorry for the long post but a lot was on my mind.
  • 04-28-2008 11:21 PM In reply to

    • Loonie
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    Re: Hello All...

    NYCAnarchist:
    I then went on to make the statement that if people are going to be irrational, they should have been aborted.

    I might be a bit sensitive myself, but this seems a bit harsh.  You don't seem to be leaving any room for the other person to move toward your point of view.  Ask yourself how you would respond to such an approach?  How does Stef open a dialogue?

    Let me know what you think. 

     

    Crisis? What Crisis?
  • 04-29-2008 9:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    I showed support of the rights of women and I rejected involuntary relationships such as slavery and rape.  Not only did he reject them, he said that I should shut up and stop showing support of these "gay" idiotic notions.  Also, I believe the majority of irrational people can't be saved.  I don't see the point of wanting them around.  I stand by my statement that if people are irrational (blank) who have the IQ of negative 20 and who don't reform should have been aborted.  Especially the Cultists that force their irrationality on other people.  People who are radically irrational that are violent should have never been born in the first place.  Imagine a world without the irrational people that beat, enslave, mutilate, and rape young girls...Imagine a world without people like Uday Hussien and Josef Stalin...
  • 04-29-2008 11:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    I certainly do picture such a world, but I don't believe that you can fight aggression with aggression, if that makes any kind of sense. My sole goal is to continually seek out that which most excites other people about truth and virtue - anger and condemnation I have never found to work.


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  • 04-29-2008 12:08 PM In reply to

    • pcrs
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    Re: Hello All...

    Welcome,

    I have noticed also that many minarchists and even anarchists like to make fun of how ridiculous the state is, when a speaker compares it to the mafia, the whole audience giggles, when he points out that all the incentives are the wrong way around, everyone giggles again. It's a bit like the state is a mentally retarded cousin, who thinks he is napoleon and everyone laughs when he does his act, but very much behind his back, because he s very strong and can get very angry. But it does not sound like a reaction to an institution that causes the death of millions. Maybe because they are often very religious, so they think that in the end their invisible friend will stop the state from thermo nuclear war fare.

    Violence has nothing with which to cover itself except the lie, and the lie has nothing to stand on other than violence. Any man who has once acclaimed violence as his method must inexorably choose the lie as his principle. Solzhenitsyn, Alexander

  • 04-29-2008 12:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    Stefan Molyneux:
    I certainly do picture such a world, but I don't believe that you can fight aggression with aggression, if that makes any kind of sense. My sole goal is to continually seek out that which most excites other people about truth and virtue - anger and condemnation I have never found to work.

    Agree 100% but it is hard to be civil when they are offensive, stupid, and unwilling to learn.  Not all people are like that but a good chunk of them are.  Some people are civil and can be reasoned with totally

  • 04-29-2008 12:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    pcrs:

    Welcome,

    I have noticed also that many minarchists and even anarchists like to make fun of how ridiculous the state is, when a speaker compares it to the mafia, the whole audience giggles, when he points out that all the incentives are the wrong way around, everyone giggles again. It's a bit like the state is a mentally retarded cousin, who thinks he is napoleon and everyone laughs when he does his act, but very much behind his back, because he s very strong and can get very angry. But it does not sound like a reaction to an institution that causes the death of millions. Maybe because they are often very religious, so they think that in the end their invisible friend will stop the state from thermo nuclear war fare.

    Libertarianism fails because Libertarians don't live their values.  If all libertarians just simply lived their values, we would be in a stateless society already.  Also, I don't get those racist and religious anarchists.  The people who want exclusive communities and still are highly religious.

  • 05-05-2008 12:31 PM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    I've personally found the trend amongst so-called libertarians towards "paleoconservatism" to be unsettling. Especially all of the ridiculous moralising and worship of religion which wouldn't sound out of place coming from the likes of the Christian Right.
  • 05-12-2008 2:31 AM In reply to

    • ted
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    Re: Hello All...

    Hey Stef and all the board,

     

    I think Stef might be interested in this information for marketing purposes. I was just going to explain how I got into contact with www.freedomainradio.com First I was listening to one of Australia´s better lefties Phillip Adams on ABC radio. He was interviewing an American writer called Chalmers Johnson and he was talking about his "blowback" series. I bought the book and read it, it was good and at the back in the notes it said thanks to loads of people and included was www.antiwar.com and I went there and started listening to podcasts of Scott Horton, good stuff by the way. Then one day I listened to this strange but enthusiastic guy talking some crazy ideas but with lots of passion, guess who, a clue Stefan. So I went to freedomainradio and started downloading podcasts, great stuff and he really blew my mind proposing things that I had never even thought of but in some way I had always believed.

     Anyway thought you guys would be interested to know how people get into contact with freedomainradio

     

    thanks

     

  • 05-12-2008 4:52 AM In reply to

    Re: Hello All...

    ted:

    Hey Stef and all the board,

     

    I think Stef might be interested in this information for marketing purposes. I was just going to explain how I got into contact with www.freedomainradio.com First I was listening to one of Australia´s better lefties Phillip Adams on ABC radio. He was interviewing an American writer called Chalmers Johnson and he was talking about his "blowback" series. I bought the book and read it, it was good and at the back in the notes it said thanks to loads of people and included was www.antiwar.com and I went there and started listening to podcasts of Scott Horton, good stuff by the way. Then one day I listened to this strange but enthusiastic guy talking some crazy ideas but with lots of passion, guess who, a clue Stefan. So I went to freedomainradio and started downloading podcasts, great stuff and he really blew my mind proposing things that I had never even thought of but in some way I had always believed.

     Anyway thought you guys would be interested to know how people get into contact with freedomainradio

     

    thanks

     

    Where in Australia are you?

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