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I have just witnessed, first hand, the effects of religion on sexuality. This girl I've known since the 7th grade (I'm in 12th now) just had a very interesting conversation with me, which I will summarize here:

PEL = her
T = me

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PEL: I have the worst sexual frustration!!!!!

T: Why?

PEL: Well, none of the boys I like will hook up with me, blah blah blah...

T: Well, you know, masturbation is a good solver of this problem.

PEL: I don't masturbate.

T: Why not?

PEL: It just doesn't work for me.

T: Uhhhh....maybe you're doing it wrong.

PEL: I don't really want to know. My imagination is good enough...

T: Obviously not, if you're so sexually frustrated

PEL: Well, I just use my imagination, and then think about God when i get to the good part.

T: idk wtf you mean w/ that god thing

PEL: its like i think about how god would frown on premarital sex so that i wont think about having sex with whoever
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Now, I lightened that conversation up a bit. There was more, like her talking about having an imaginary chastity belt, and shit like that. I edited it to make her superstition look a little less disgusting. Nonetheless, this is disgusting. What are your thoughts?

david kopp:

yeah, that is weird. What a strange conversation.  Why do you think she told you that stuff?

She trusts me, I suppose.

Well, is she really that religious or is this her frustration with what she'd been indoctrinated with i.e. people (deceased family, Jesus, God) watching her? 

Religion is truly destructive and evil towards our natural human feelings.

I would not debate with her about religion though, I would attempt to have a real time conversation with her.  It doesn't sound as if she is all too happy about the whole God thing.  Why do you think you immediately shifted to an intellectual debate about the existence of god when she was expressing such frustration about how it makes her feel?

Nathan:

Why do you think you immediately shifted to an intellectual debate about the existence of god when she was expressing such frustration about how it makes her feel?

I don't think that there was any debate about the existence of God, or lack thereof, at all in that conversation.

AESTHETE:

Nathan:

Why do you think you immediately shifted to an intellectual debate about the existence of god when she was expressing such frustration about how it makes her feel?

I don't think that there was any debate about the existence of God, or lack thereof, at all in that conversation.

oh... I guess I had to be there... 

well for her:

the good news: she won't contract a std, have an unwanted pregnancy or develop carpal tunnel syndrome

the bad news: she is going to kick herself in a few years once she gets it!

I was raised southern baptist...and let me tell you the guilt around sex is unreal! At the age of 30 and being out of my parent house for 10 yrs I am just now overcoming the guilt of sex.I was told that holding hands leads to kissing which leads to sex.I was not allowed to have friends that were girls.In middle school I would lie to my parents that I was going to a guy friends house to hangout with a girl.This has had long lasting effects.I still am very awkward around the opposite sex.luckily my was was more of the aggressor to me or I would probably still be single.My parents caught my friend and me trying to buy a playboy mag...and later sat me down and gave my a lecture on how DR JAMES (GOD) DOBSON interviewed Ted Bundy the serial killer,and the reason Bundy killed those girls was because of porn,and therefore If I looked at porn I would become a serial killer.

Writing this I am starting to shake....My parents fucked me up so bad in so many different ways. It really hurts.