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  • 09-30-2007 5:32 PM

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    Beheading...

    ...a silly theistic argument.

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    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

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  • 09-30-2007 6:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Beheading...

    (1) It's interesting that his first refutation automatically (subconsciously) presupposes that Charity is a moral good. I wonder how he defends that. If it is good to buy people dinner, then at best, only 50% of the population could ever be "good" simultaneously, since the other 50% would be the recipient of the meal. And, if that's the case, why would I want to buy a "bad" man a meal?

    (2) By far, the better argument, since it falls immediately to the theist to explain how morality is more than simply the caprice of their God. However, he bungles his case, by introducing the term "objective". Morality is only "objective" (or, more properly described, "universal"), because the tools we use to judge it, are absolute and objective: empiricism and logic. Failing to note this, he runs the risk of a flurry of "is-ought" complaints in his comment section...

     

     

  • 10-02-2007 8:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Beheading...

    I think your second argument is very good.

    It's a shame that nobody seems to listen though.

  • 10-03-2007 4:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beheading...

    meatbix:
    I think your second argument is very good.

    It's a shame that nobody seems to listen though.

    Whose second argument?
    Mine, or that of the poster under me?

    «Je voudrais, et ce sera le dernier et le plus ardent de mes souhaits, je voudrais que le dernier des rois fût étranglé avec les boyaux du dernier prêtre.» Jean Meslier

  • 10-16-2007 9:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Beheading...

    I was referring to your second point ;0)
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