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    Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    A Stato-Libertarian Analysis of Immigration

    - By Wilton D. Alston and Stefan Molyneux

    “We are all callable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield.”

     ~ George Orwell

    After much discussion, debate, soul-searching, and research, we think we finally understand what the closed-border libertarians are really trying to say about immigration. We think we understand the logic, and why it makes sense to some people. And while we don’t agree, we also must admit that the logic is, in fact, sound if (and only if) you’re interested in using the power of the State for some “good” purpose. The belief that the coercive power of the State can be used for good is perhaps the most dangerous idea in history.

    In this case, “good” simply means that the power of the State – power that plumb-line libertarians supposedly agree that no one should have – should be used for purposes that appeal to some libertarians! (Talk about cognitive dissonance.)  It is the sweet Kool-Aid of this fallacy – a fallacy we thought we had long since abandoned – which so many otherwise radical libertarians seem to be drinking.

    Essentially, the popular libertarian argument (as best we can repeat it) for closed borders go like this:

    The state should use aggression as required to keep too many illegal aliens from entering the U.S. because otherwise, the amount of aggression the state uses against legal citizens to support those illegal aliens will have to increase.

    This argument is based on the pragmatic assumption that choosing the lesser of two evils is beneficial. Being shot in the foot is preferable to being shot in the chest. Voting to increase the power of the state in the hopes of creating conditions which will somehow reduce the power of the state may seem like a mad, dangerous and self-defeating plan, but it appeals to a rather surprisingly large number of libertarians, so it is well worth analyzing.

    Let us analyze this logic and assumptions that undergird this premise, so as to better understand it.

    a.       Aggression – defined as action taken by the state against any citizen, e.g., taxation, incarceration, fines, imposition of rules, etc. – exists at a present level (call it X) that is relatively stable.

    b.      Without the state providing a chokepoint for entry into the U.S., the number of illegal aliens would skyrocket in an uncontrolled manner.

    c.       While it may be argued that the free market for labor and housing can absorb some influx of new people, it cannot be argued that this market would absorb the huge number of people who would immigrate to the U.S. without the state-imposed chokepoint noted above.

    d.      No matter what their socio-economic, educational or cultural pedigree, any significant influx of illegal aliens – i.e. those who enter the U.S. without taking all the proper steps to become citizens – will result in a net increase of people receiving state-based aid, e.g., welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing.

    e.       The inevitable result of this significant influx in illegal aliens must necessarily be an increased level of aggression against current citizen (call this new aggression level Y), as manifest by increased taxation, specifically to fund the needs of illegal aliens.

    f.       Any significant influx of illegal aliens will also result in a measurable increase in people who not only take advantage of socialist state policies, but who would also support the creation of more such policies via the vote.

    g.      The support of illegal aliens for socialist state policies will result in even more aggression by the state against legal citizens.

    h.      Finally, since these illegal immigrants will rely so heavily on state largesse, a pro-statist voting bloc will be permanently created.

    Evidence, Evidence, Evidence…

    While a number of the fallacies in this argument have been successfully dismissed by others, we still feel compelled to examine the general premise via another rubric: historical evidence. If the proposition is: “Giving the state more power over immigration will lead to a reduction in the power of the state,” there is no need rely on mere theory, since we can simply review the abundant historical evidence. All we need to do is look at the past hundred years or so.

    Clearly, state immigration controls have expanded radically since the 19th century. According to the theory, these massive increases in immigration controls should have reduced the power of government as a whole.

    It’s hard to imagine any libertarian needing a chart to see the empirical flaw in this proposition.

    We can also ask: “Has the fear of immigration ever contributed to expansions in government power in the past?” If immigration scares have been used to expand government power in the past, it’s hard to imagine how such fears in the present can ever reduce government power in the future.

    One of the greatest expansions in US state power – in fact, the expansion that is arguably required for all other expansions – was the creation of state schools in the mid-19th century.

    A central justification for the introduction of state education was a fear of immigration. A general paranoia about foreign values “taking over” American culture provided great fuel for the introduction of standardized cultural indoctrination in the form of state schools. Particularly, Protestant Americans in the mid-19th century feared that the growing influx of Catholic immigrants would place American society under control of the Pope! (And let’s not forget the 1901 Anarchist Exclusion Act, which prohibited the entry into the US of people judged to be anarchists and political extremists. How many of us would be turned back or deported today?)

    We can also look at how state power was affected by the fears of the “yellow peril,” or the large increase of Chinese and Japanese immigration in the mid-19th century. Did the desire to keep such immigrants out result in an increase, or a reduction in state power? (Hint, take a look at the Asian Exclusion Act, Chinese Exclusion Act, etc.)

    The Dillingham Commission labored from 1907 to 1911 writing a 42-volume report warning that the “new” immigration from Southern and Eastern Europe threatened to subvert American society. These recommendations were the basis for the Quota Acts of the 1920s. Open immigration as a concept took a severe blow during the First World War – as state power vastly increased. In 1921, the Emergency Quota Act restricted immigration from any given country to 3% of the number of people from that country living in the US in 1910. (For more of this timeline, please click here.)

    Over and over, we can see that increased fears of immigration (and by extension immigrants) are followed by overall increases in state power.

    Many libertarians look back with fondness to the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Of course, there were virtually no immigration restrictions in the 18th century, when the United States was far more free than it is today. As immigration restrictions have grown, so has state power.

    Cause and Effect

    It could be argued, of course, that it was the increases in state power that resulted in additional immigration restrictions. In some cases, this may be true – but in many other cases, such as public education, fear-mongering empirically preceded expansions in state power, and were directly used to justify such increases. The “cause and effect” relationship between ideas and laws is very difficult to prove – and in some cases may be impossible – but the essential lesson here is that increases in immigration controls have never led to overall reductions in state power, but have always preceded overall increases.

    This is perfectly logical, since we know that increases in specific government power and spending are almost never offset by decreases elsewhere. When we demand that immigrants be kept out because we are afraid of them abusing the welfare system (a demonstrably false fear), we are demanding that government increase its spending on immigration control. Do we then rationally expect government spending to decrease on welfare, let alone overall?

    It will never happen, because it never has happened.

    As Santayana famously said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

    But, I Thought We Wanted Anarchy?

    A cartoon we saw some time ago provides most of the context one needs to understand the typical stance of the most ignorant anti-immigrationists. Certainly, the more reasoned thinkers, and honorable people like Ron Paul, understand that such a view is lunacy. The problem is, if one supports closed borders “this one time” one is in bed with those who have a, shall we say, less nuanced view of freedom. In for a penny, in for a pound?

    The problem with supporting or nourishing this view, if only just a little bit, is this: anarchy and free markets are never a given. It is of limited use that we all agree on that end point, since that end point will likely never come in our lifetimes. It is important that we agree on what is a step in the right or wrong direction, since many such steps will come in our lifetimes. Building a border wall, an idea with which even Ron Paul apparently agrees, is a step that is rather close at hand in the mind of many. If the most libertarian, by far, of the candidates for President of the United States thinks building a wall to keep Mexicans out is a good idea, at what point do we simply say, “Hey, not so fast my friend?” If we’ll compromise on this, what else will prove “practical” in the long run?

    Expanding government power to keep some people out, under the theory that they might either vote or use social services – and thus lead to expanded aggression – is not truly libertarian. If you think aggression now is necessary to forestall more aggression in the future, this is essentially the same argument underlying gun control and pre-emptive intervention all over the globe. Of course, if those who vote for increases in state power are in the wrong morally as well as practically, what does that say about those who support increases in state power over immigration?

    It is also strange to note that libertarians argue that the state is woefully and destructively counter-productive in social policies – in every area except immigration. The welfare state creates more poor, we argue – do we really believe that increased anti-immigration policies will do anything but create more illegal immigration? If the state is successful in keeping immigrants out, that just raises the economic value of getting in – since the demand for illegal labor will not disappear. The prospect of increased wages for those who get through will simply raise the price that can be paid – in bribes or other countermeasures – to get through. The government can’t keep drugs out of prisons, but it can effectively keep immigrants out? It’s exactly the same principle.

    Thus the argument for immigration controls calls libertarian itself into question! On this one issue, libertarianism does not work. On this one issue, apparently, a libertarian (laissez faire) immigration policy is ultimately bad for liberty! This is almost identical to the logic employed by those who believe a truly libertarian foreign policy is bad for liberty, or gun control advocates who believe a truly libertarian gun policy is bad for liberty, or drug warriors believe a truly libertarian drug policy endangers liberty.

    Conclusion

    We’re far from the only libertarian thinkers who are a little disturbed over Ron Paul’s stance on immigration specifically, and the closed-border argument in general. What concerns us is that so many otherwise seasoned, battle-worn libertarians are willing to cast aside that which we thought was inarguable and unassailable – our belief in the absolute evil of the State – because we’ve supposedly got a horse in the race.

    We gave up believing that all we needed was the “right guy” in office just about the same time we realized, in the words of the immortal Harry Browne, that “government doesn’t work.”

    A central tactic of governments around the world is to make people afraid of each other, rather than of their governments. Libertarians are generally cognizant of this reality in many areas. We understand that environmental fear-mongering is designed to justify increases in state power, as does playing on fears about drug use, poverty, sickness and so on.

    It is time that we expand this understanding to immigration as well. A recent LRC Blog entry echoes this truth:

    “…even when mass migration is political and invasive, dismantling the welfare state and privatizing as much land as humanly possible are the only responses that don’t lead to intolerable collateral damage in terms of liberties and property rights.”

    By giving the government more power to keep others out, we are only giving the government more power to keep us down.


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  • 09-10-2007 9:26 AM In reply to

    • bigrob
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    Re: Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    Good stuff. I've been thinking more and more about this issue, too. I always love to go to slavery and its aftermath as a good indicator of how the state works. Since the examples are so clear, the effects are pronounced enough as to be undeniable. Essentially, those things which happen over centuries in other states, happened over the course of decades in this country, due largely to the odd happenstance that a liberal democracy had slavery. I think there are far deeper lessons to be learned from that bit of history than the normal "whitey holding the black man down" stuff which gets pandered by liberals, or the "That's a long time ago and has no relevance to today" idea which gets trotted out by conservatives. I think the immigration issue is similar to the objections raised in recognizing blacks as full citizens. Essentially, the 4 million slaves, if they were granted the right to vote, would be able to use the coercive power of the state to affect everyone else's lives. This is similar to the various arguments against illegal immigrants. I also think that the aftermath is instructive. They were immigrants, after all, even if the manner in which they emigrated was different.

    The Civil Rights movement used the coercive power of the state to attempt to correct the results of decades of its use against blacks. If the anti-immigration crowd gets its wishes, I think something similar will happen. Lets say we get a border fence, and raids on businesses and deportations, and the whole lot. Eventually, people will wake up to the injustice, and they will look to pass a bunch of laws making it illegal to prevent migrations, even across private property. They will probably strengthen the anti-discrimination laws further, and expand the power of the state to enforce those laws. They will probably eventually get a foreign legion type arrangement and exchange citizenship for service as well. I am sure lots of other things as well, but you get the idea. Using the state to correct the state is a lot like using a heavy sauce to mask the taste of decay when one has refrigeration and knows how to cure meat.

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  • 09-10-2007 9:33 AM In reply to

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    Well put! - I was thinking of talking about how the State couldn't even stop the underground railroad, what do you think of that example?


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  • 09-10-2007 9:42 AM In reply to

    • bigrob
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    Stefan Molyneux:
    Well put! - I was thinking of talking about how the State couldn't even stop the underground railroad, what do you think of that example?

    Excellent example. You'd have to turn the US into East Germany on steroids to stop immigration, and even then, the immigrants would stop as a result of this being a miserable place to live, rather than because of the fear of capture. Trying to stop immigration into an area of prosperity is like trying to prevent heat migrating from the air into a block of ice. It's contrary to how the world works, and will always use up more energy than it saves. In this case energy=freedom. 

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  • 09-10-2007 9:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    bigrob:

    Good stuff. I've been thinking more and more about this issue, too. I always love to go to slavery and its aftermath as a good indicator of how the state works. Since the examples are so clear, the effects are pronounced enough as to be undeniable. Essentially, those things which happen over centuries in other states, happened over the course of decades in this country, due largely to the odd happenstance that a liberal democracy had slavery. I think there are far deeper lessons to be learned from that bit of history than the normal "whitey holding the black man down" stuff which gets pandered by liberals, or the "That's a long time ago and has no relevance to today" idea which gets trotted out by conservatives. I think the immigration issue is similar to the objections raised in recognizing blacks as full citizens. Essentially, the 4 million slaves, if they were granted the right to vote, would be able to use the coercive power of the state to affect everyone else's lives. This is similar to the various arguments against illegal immigrants. I also think that the aftermath is instructive. They were immigrants, after all, even if the manner in which they emigrated was different.

    The Civil Rights movement used the coercive power of the state to attempt to correct the results of decades of its use against blacks. If the anti-immigration crowd gets its wishes, I think something similar will happen. Lets say we get a border fence, and raids on businesses and deportations, and the whole lot. Eventually, people will wake up to the injustice, and they will look to pass a bunch of laws making it illegal to prevent migrations, even across private property. They will probably strengthen the anti-discrimination laws further, and expand the power of the state to enforce those laws. They will probably eventually get a foreign legion type arrangement and exchange citizenship for service as well. I am sure lots of other things as well, but you get the idea. Using the state to correct the state is a lot like using a heavy sauce to mask the taste of decay when one has refrigeration and knows how to cure meat.

    That's astute and powerful insight BigRob.  I think a mention of the ironic parallels between what some said would happen if the slaves were freed and what some say will happen if millions of "illegal" Mexicans enter the U.S. would be excellent.  In fact, now that you mention it, it's almost criminal to leave it out.

    ...let's see what we can make of it.

    "There are none so enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." ~ Goethe

    "Everything the state says is a lie and everything it has, it has stolen." ~ Nietzsche, from "Thus Spake Zarathustra"

  • 09-10-2007 9:50 AM In reply to

    Re: Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    I'll take a swing at it...


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  • 09-10-2007 11:14 AM In reply to

    • LiMi
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    But the freed slaves were not entitled to use the welfare state (which did not even exist at the time). That is a crucial difference. Anyway, check the 'Is Ron Paul thinking' thread for what I think is a superior solution to the immigration quandrum.
  • 09-10-2007 11:28 AM In reply to

    • bigrob
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    Re: Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    LiMi:
    But the freed slaves were not entitled to use the welfare state (which did not even exist at the time). That is a crucial difference. Anyway, check the 'Is Ron Paul thinking' thread for what I think is a superior solution to the immigration quandrum.

    But the voting rights issue was still coming up after their descendants had access to public schools, which was a part of the welfare state. Bill Buckley even expressed some sympathy for not allowing blacks full involvement in the political process, though he did not actually endorse such an exclusion. He simply said he understood the impulse. So these ideas were floated around, apparently. Apparently Jefferson thought that legal protection of person and property even was part of the welfare state, since he suggested considering interracial couples "outside the protection of the laws." So it would be open season to murder them and homestead their then unowned property.

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  • 09-10-2007 11:52 AM In reply to

    • LiMi
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    Yes, I do agree with your point that slaves were entitled to vote from the moment they became free men and women and that the consequences of this were also much dreaded but did not really materialize. (I do not know about the voting behaviour of freed slaves though)

    But voting requires a majority (or in any case a powerful special interest group that can get things done through the government) whereas participation in the welfare state can be immediately done and the consequences will be immediately clear. So there still is an important difference in my point of view.

    Also, my solution to the immigration problem would possibly (have to think about it more) not apply to freed slaves as they did not choose to come here, but were kidnapped (or at least their parents and grandparents were).

  • 09-10-2007 3:47 PM In reply to

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    Speaking of ignorant anti-immigrationists, here is Lou Dobbs calling economist Alex Tabarrok a "complete idiot" for taking the open border position. 

    [YouTube:zoDb3D7B2Zo]
  • 09-10-2007 4:07 PM In reply to

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    Great article, BTW. Your argument about the state still expanding even with immigration controls in place is an insight I haven't heard discussed before.

    Perhaps in another article you can discuss the argument that some libertarians (such as Hoppe) make that immigrants would be using public property which belongs to the taxpayers and, while government is controlling the property, it should act as if they were the owners of the property and permit entry on the property in a value maximizing manner.

    Also, in the article you state:

    "Thus the argument for immigration controls calls libertarian itself into question!"

    Perhaps you mean "libertarianism" or "libertarian theory."

    Overall, though, this is an excellent article.

    Where do you expect to publish it?
  • 09-11-2007 7:26 AM In reply to

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    Daniel Roncari:
    Great article, BTW. Your argument about the state still expanding even with immigration controls in place is an insight I haven't heard discussed before.

    Perhaps in another article you can discuss the argument that some libertarians (such as Hoppe) make that immigrants would be using public property which belongs to the taxpayers and, while government is controlling the property, it should act as if they were the owners of the property and permit entry on the property in a value maximizing manner.

    Also, in the article you state:

    "Thus the argument for immigration controls calls libertarian itself into question!"

    Perhaps you mean "libertarianism" or "libertarian theory."

    Overall, though, this is an excellent article.

    Where do you expect to publish it?

    Thanks!  Don't know where it will be published yet.

    That particular Hoppe argument strikes me as yet another bogus one.  (I hope I'm not hit by lightening thrown from the libertarian gods for saying that.)  If the government is inherently inefficient, poorly incentivized, able to externalize the opportunity costs for evil, etc. why would I think that they can be a good custodian of property?  More importantly, why would I suggest that they should control land that they stole, simply as a means of preventing certain people from crossing an imaginary border that the government itself created?  All that said, you are absolutely correct.  The argument does maintain a bit of traction in some libertarian circles.

    ...for reasons I cannot fathom.
     

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    "Everything the state says is a lie and everything it has, it has stolen." ~ Nietzsche, from "Thus Spake Zarathustra"

  • 09-11-2007 7:34 AM In reply to

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    It's just rank racism, right..? Some libertarians are against welfare because they're racist, and anyone who talks about the "glory" of the Founding Fathers without mentioning the whole slavery thing is certainly suspect in my mind...

    The Constitution was Nazism if you were on the wrong side of the color line. Those who praise the original constitution without mentioning that it was to some degree a White Power manifesto have got to be missing that "Power" just a little, right?Surprise


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  • 09-11-2007 7:39 AM In reply to

    • bigrob
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    Re: Wilt and Stef's new article: Immigration (feedback welcome!)

    Wilt Alston:

    That particular Hoppe argument strikes me as yet another bogus one.  (I hope I'm not hit by lightening thrown from the libertarian gods for saying that.)  If the government is inherently inefficient, poorly incentivized, able to externalize the opportunity costs for evil, etc. why would I think that they can be a good custodian of property?  More importantly, why would I suggest that they should control land that they stole, simply as a means of preventing certain people from crossing an imaginary border that the government itself created?  All that said, you are absolutely correct.  The argument does maintain a bit of traction in some libertarian circles.

    ...for reasons I cannot fathom.

    This is something else I've been thinking on the immigration issue, and on stato-libertarianism in general. I think the statlibs are doing something analogous to Mises' criticism of economists who treat economics like a physical science. They are effectively, in many cases, treating government policy like a physical science. They seem to have the idea that they can isolate variables and increasing government power without bringing in the corruption, or increase its activity without increasing its evil, when it should be clear to any libertarian by principle that the government creates evil any time it performs any action whatsoever.

    They seem to think that the government can do something, and it only affects that one thing, completely isolated from everything else. They are acting as if government is a catalyst to a chemical reaction, having no affect on the final compounds which result. It's very similar to how socialists think.
     

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  • 09-11-2007 8:01 AM In reply to

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    Right, but libertarians specifically reject the idea that actions using force can be isolated from everything else. For instance, libertarians reject statist intervention in the economy on practical grounds because of the inevitable "ripple effect" - I think that the reasons that they ignore this with regards to immigration are much darker, as I mention above...


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