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They really need a *wetting my pants with laughter* emoticon.  I have a feeling the Ron Paul supporters won't be bragging too much about that one.
 

Excellent. As a White Supremacist, I found this very appealing. I will vote for Ron Paul unless Pat Buchanan, a great american hero, runs. Fight the power!

 

White power!
 

eh, it happens I guess. I'm sure there's some equally inane message for all the other presidential candidates, just sort of goes along with being a public figure.

chewgarus:

Excellent. As a White Supremacist, I found this very appealing. I will vote for Ron Paul unless Pat Buchanan, a great american hero, runs. Fight the power!

White power!

please tell me that's sarcasm... 

If a white supremacist supported Stef would all of you guys abandon Stef?

normaltim:

If a white supremacist supported Stef would all of you guys abandon Stef?

Nobody's abandoning Ron Paul because a white supremacist endorsed him - it's just funny.

A white supremacist wouldn't support Stef in the first place - along with bigotry, they tend to like God and country.  What are you really asking?

But to answer your question, no.  I'd just think the white supremacist hadn't done much listening and reading. 

normaltim:

If a white supremacist supported Stef would all of you guys act the same?

No, we certainly would not. This is because everything that Stefan says conflicts with the beliefs and objectives of White Supremacists, so that situation is highly unlikely to arise. In the strange situation that it does, it will not have any (in context) quotes to pair with the white supremacist narrator's empassioned speech.

This video demonstrates that Ron Paul's advocated position is (at least often times) compatible with being an ignorant White Supremacist. It does not mean that he is now somehow "more wrong" as a result of their support; their support is merely illustrative of the fact that Ron Paul believes in nonsense.

And yes, I was joking. I thought the "Fight the power... white power" would give it away.
 

chewgarus:

And yes, I was joking. I thought the "Fight the power... white power" would give it away.

sorry I guess I just made a hasty generalization that all jokes were funny

chewgarus:

This video demonstrates that Ron Paul's advocated position is (at least often times) compatible with being an ignorant White Supremacist. It does not mean that he is now somehow "more wrong" as a result of their support; their support is merely illustrative of the fact that Ron Paul believes in nonsense.

You can find inroads into any ideology. There are many movements that are carried out underneath islamic and christian banners that really conflict with their own ideology.

Example:

It was reported that Abu Hurayrah entered a house in Madeenah and saw somebody making images in it. He said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: [Allaah says:] Who does greater wrong than one who goes and creates something like My creation? Let them create a seed or a small ant! (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5609; Muslim, 2111).

It was reported from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Those who make these images will be punished on the Day of Resurrection. It will be said to them, Give life to that which you have created! (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5607; Muslim, 2108).

I remember more being said about human form specifically,  but I have to leave for worka nd you get the general idea.

Except religion is so contradictory and vague that anyone can pick out a verse/section/chapter to justify their particular bigotry.

The White supremacist agrees with Paul on:

freedom of speech
lower taxes
against united nations
against wto, international criminal court
taxing american goods
iraq war based on lies
privacy and personal liberty at stake

 

Which , to my knowledge, is what just about every Libertarian agrees with. So I figure the white supremacist would support Stef as well (Stef would be far better than all of the other candidates from the white supremacist p.o.v. (except on immigration))

normaltim:

If a white supremacist supported Stef would all of you guys abandon Stef?

Actually, I think there may already be one.

There's a kid called "GabeTheArchangel" that hangs out on Stef's Youtube account, who's own Youtube page includes videos where he openly avows himself an "American Fascist", and a white supremist.

He's funny and sad, in a tragic sort of way. He can't be more than 16 or 17 years old.

His home life must be an unbelievable horror.

 

The "inroads" to the ideology are possible because Ron Paul is unclear and unspecific about essential principles, or the principles themselves are not rigorous. It's true that Stef believes the things that normaltim listed- however, he also says many things that would *FUNDAMENTALLY* alienate your run of the mill white supremacist.

Stefan is NOT Ron Paul in any regard. They just happen to share similar, shallow political views, but their justifications aren't even the same.

chewgarus:

The "inroads" to the ideology are possible because Ron Paul is unclear and unspecific about essential principles, or the principles themselves are not rigorous. It's true that Stef believes the things that normaltim listed- however, he also says many things that would *FUNDAMENTALLY* alienate your run of the mill white supremacist.

Stefan is NOT Ron Paul in any regard. They just happen to share similar, shallow political views, but their justifications aren't even the same.

sorry but, you're giving racists like this too much credit and giving Dr. Paul too little. Ron Paul has gone on the record many times referring to bigotry of any kind "evil" and a sign of a "collectivist mentality" so he has already illustrated many times that he believes such ideas are the antithesis of his ideology. He isn't really that unclear about much of anything if people would actually listen to his speeches both at rallies and at congressional committee meetings. He's against the WTO and he's explaiend exactly why: free trade is free and so it goes counter the freedom to regulate it in any way, which is the same thing he says about FTAA and CAFTA/NAFTA and everything else. he quotes mises and rothbard during interviews, so one thing he is not is vague. He may be on corporate TV and radio soundbites, but that's just how those mediums function.

someone cherry picking some ideology to justify their own isn't an excuse for discrediting the source ideology. If that were so, christians should abolish Christianity because it clearly draws people to worshiping the antichrist.